[bootstrappable] GNU Mes' Full Source Bootstrap fixes "Trusting Trust -- No one can fix this"?
Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
janneke at gnu.org
Mon Oct 13 11:52:41 UTC 2025
Colby Russell writes:
> The GNU Mes bootstrapping sequence is shown at 18:54, but not mentioned
> by name.
Thanks...and hmm, isn't that weird? And what she says also puzzles me:
18:46 So, another technique that you could try to use instead is
kind of handwriting your own teeny compiler and then using that as a
bootstrap to generate larger and larger compilers until you have a
final compiler with a pure lineage that has been written entirely by
yourself that you know you can trust.
This ("that you could try") doesn't sound to me as if Lauriewired is
actually aware that the Mes Full Source bootstrap is not just a
theoretical possibility, or a pretty good hack/workaround like DDC, but
a viable, actively developed, in-production solution to this terribly
important problem ("original sin!") "that no one can fix"?
There are > 3K comments and none of the top few hundred "got this".
Rather, the recurring remark seem to be something like: This is terrible
and someone should fix this/we should start computing anew from the
start/computing is cursed, let's give up.
Greetings,
Janneke
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