RBOS / reproducible-openSUSE
Justin Cappos
jc4946 at nyu.edu
Tue Feb 18 13:32:54 UTC 2025
This is really awesome! One thing I am curious about is what sort of
issues testing on 5 machines helped you to find? Did most issues show up
when you tested on 2 machines? What sort of things were missed?
Thanks,
Justin
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 7:22 AM Bernhard M. Wiedemann via rb-general <
rb-general at lists.reproducible-builds.org> wrote:
> Hello fellow R-B-ings,
>
> I have some good news to share about my small openSUSE fork project
> https://news.opensuse.org/2025/02/18/rbos-project-hits-milestone/
> that was sponsored by a grant from NLnet.
>
> Of the packages in ring1 [1] ,
> emacs and my VM image ('altimagebuild') probably needed the most effort.
>
> For some difficult cases, I just used workarounds, e.g. gcc/bash/python3
> build without PGO and a few others build with -j1 to avoid unsolved
> race-conditions.
>
> There is still a chance that some rare issue slipped through all my
> tests, but at least I was able to reproduce bit-identical binaries on 5
> different machines.
>
>
> In the process, I noticed that there are two different variants of
> reproducible builds that we commonly mix together.
>
> There is the first variant where you have an official build and with the
> help of some buildinfo data, people are able to independently produce
> bit-identical binaries.
>
> And then there is the second variant where all required information is
> part of the source, so you can do rebuilds without any official build
> happening somewhere.
>
>
> My RBOS is of the second kind. All packages in RBOS were built with the
> packages in RBOS, plus an extra bootstrap-snapshot of
> openSUSE-Tumbleweed for missing pieces.
> In OBS, we normally have auto-incrementing counters for checkin+rebuild
> but in this project, they are fixed at 1.1 so that I can produce
> identical binaries in OBS and outside (only the rpm sig needs to be
> removed with rpm --delsign (some exceptions apply because of an unmerged
> patch [2] and pesigning-magic - but here, OBS is not the primary
> artifact - the external builds are))
>
>
> Do we have some existing terminology to distinguish these two kinds of r-b?
>
> Ciao
> Bernhard M.
>
> [1]
>
> https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:bmwiedemann:reproducible:distribution:ring1
> [2] https://github.com/openSUSE/obs-build/pull/1037
>
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