[rb-general] be excellent to each other (Re: Heading toward functional compilation by adding hidden inputs?)
danielsh at apache.org
Wed Jan 25 18:52:33 CET 2017
Ximin Luo wrote on Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 13:40:00 +0000:
> The general topic is indeed a relevant discussion for this list. And
> I was not offended by your specific message, rather the general
> pattern of messages from various people.
> That is - taking their vague understanding or support of a general
> concept, and using it an argument against something else, in a way
> that is very unconcrete and seems more suited towards pleasing an
> audience rather than seriously discussing the topic.
I hope that nobody was being intentionally unconcrete or acting of
populistic motives. I have certainly observed nothing of the sort.
Moreover, "People have been unconcrete and populistic" is not the
take-away I wish anyone would have of this thread: that's just emotional
residue that would cause the next misunderstanding to flare yet higher.
I wish the take-away were "There had been a misunderstanding, but
everyone's contributions were intended to be constructive/on-topic".
Moreover, I hope that the next time somebody appears to be disrespectful,
that impression will be resolved without raising the channel temperature.
That's a skill we all need to learn...
> This form of argumentation indicates a distinct *lack* of respect for
> others. They may not be using snarky comments as much as I was, but
> the lack of respect is as serious. if not more serious. If we are
> talking about being respectful, I would suggest that we avoid and
> discourage this form of argumentation. (And I apologise that the
> method in which I was trying to discourage this, may not have been so
> For example, I am more than happy to write polite responses to
> arguments even if they heavily criticise me, if the writer has
> obviously also spent a respectful amount of time forming a detailed
> and specific argument.
> > There’s a diversity of technical backgrounds in the RB community. I
> > think it’s a strength, and I find it interesting to see how each of the
> > projects approaches RB with its own tools and constraints. Each project
> > is making its own tradeoffs and choices, but in the end, we have common
> > goals and the discussion of how we get there is valuable in its own
> > right IMO.
> > Regardless, I second Holger. Disagreements exist, but they should not
> > justify rude and unwelcoming behavior. We want more people to invest in
> > RB and more diversity too, and that can only be achieved by showing
> > respect for each other’s opinions, work, and personality.
> For sure these are good principles, let's see if everyone can follow them in the future.
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