GNU Mes 0.24 released

indieterminacy at indieterminacy at
Mon May 9 14:00:45 UTC 2022

Larry Doolittle <larry at> writes:

> Ludovic and friends -
> On Sun, May 08, 2022 at 12:34:47AM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke at> skribis:
>> > Mes has now been ported to M2-Planet and can be bootstrapped using
>> > stage0-posix[0], starting from the 357-byte hex0 binary of the
>> > bootstrap-seeds[1], as was promised at FOSDEM'21[2].
>> This is amazing… congrats to you & everyone involved!  You made it!  :-)
> +1
>> The common objection is: “you’re building from source but you’re not
>> gonna audit all that source code anyway, so why bother?”  [...]
>> Supply chain security is a spectrum and I think this achievement changes
>> what we can expect and demand.
> I've had this conversation before, any my analogy is to the
> three legs of a stool.  Bootstrapped toolchains, reproducible builds,
> and source-code audits.  Each one is arguably useless without the others,
> but taken together, you've actually accomplished something meaningful.
> Maybe I should also include "cryptographically signed artifact distribution"
> on that list.
>  - Larry

With works this sturdy then even two tool domains suffice as a fine and
versatile stepladder...

Great job everybody!

- Jonathan

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