Evaluation of bundling .buildinfo in .deb proposal

Holger Levsen holger at layer-acht.org
Mon Aug 31 12:39:07 UTC 2020

Dear Chris,

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 12:02:03PM -0000, Chris Lamb wrote:
> (As an obiter dictum, are we sure it was Holger who was proposing this
> idea in the talk, rather than mentioning it? I think he has previously
> echoed my view on the "no special tools" principle, hence this minor
> remark. Am willing to be corrected either way.)

yes, it was me who proposed it (watch my dc20 talk! :) and who still
thinks it's a good idea. sadly I didn't have the time to start the
discussion in a bug (I only came to this conclusion the day before the
talk, though I have thought about this for the last 5 years) and I 
probably still won't have the time until next week. (*)

I'd appreciate we'd use a bug for discussing this, so whatever the outcome
will be, we'll have a canonical and truely long living url to reference the


(*) so the blame for not discussing this in a bug right now in the first
    place, goes to me. hooray.

similarily, I don't think an internal Debian discussion immediatly belongs
on the rb-general list... I do believe we have these two distict lists
for a reason :)

also, I will not share my thoughts about Guillem's and Chris' reply
here (and *now*), before I had the opportunity to put the reasoning
behind my thoughts in a bug report. And I'd hope my thoughts why are laid
out clearly in my talk available at


finally, I'm sorry if I come accross harsh. I feel pressured and misunder-
stood and that I need to react now. I wish I felt different.


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