[rb-general] r-b icon-sets + simplified r-b logo?

Arnout Engelen arnout at bzzt.net
Tue Mar 27 14:29:04 CEST 2018

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Bernhard M. Wiedemann <bernhardout at lsmod.de
> wrote:

> The other related thought was that the 'reproducible' diagram might have
> inspired the current r-b logo draft (even if it was not yet drawn, r-b
> people have it in their heads), except that there are only 2 nodes and 2
> arrows.
> And people might eventually ask us (or themselves) what the 4
> nodes+arrows in the logo actually represent.
> My best guesmeeting and draftss so far was about diverse double
> compilation [1]
> where you can
> 1. use two (or more) different compilers with the same compiler source code
> 2. to get two different but equivalent intermediate compiler binaries
> 3. and use those to generate identical final compiler binaries.
> And sure, that only works if it builds reproducibly.

No, nothing quite so complicated ;).

I introduced the 4 nodes in
https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds/Logo#A.2317 , representing

- the source on the left
- 2 compilation runs in the middle (for example, one on some CI system and
one on some 'trusted' machine)
- convergence to the same resulting binary on the right.

> Somehow I feel that I would want a logo that is simpler to explain,
> like the 2 nodes + 2 edges
> = you build it twice and always get the same (bit-identical) results
> How much do we care about explainability?
> Is it to late to further simplify the design?

I don't think it's necessarily too late, but I feel the explanation above
is simple enough. I agree that 2 nodes and 2 edges can also be sufficient
to express the concept, but it doesn't look as nice IMHO ;). The 4 arrows
make sense to me since building software is essentially "download the
source, perform the compilation, upload the result".

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