[Git][reproducible-builds/reproducible-presentations][master] minidebconf hamburg 2026 talk: include a lot more numbers
Holger Levsen (@holger)
gitlab at salsa.debian.org
Sat May 9 10:02:40 UTC 2026
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bcf2f8fd by Holger Levsen at 2026-05-09T12:02:29+02:00
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Signed-off-by: Holger Levsen <holger at layer-acht.org>
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@@ -184,7 +184,7 @@
<h3>Outline of this talk</h3>
<ul>
<li class="fragment">explain reproduce.debian.net
- <li class="fragment">current status and outlook
+ <li class="fragment">current status and outlook for forky and duke
<li class="fragment">(nothing outside Debian though there have been huge progresses too)
</ul>
</section>
@@ -631,8 +631,7 @@ Warpforge.
<li class="fragment">reproducible live images: cdimage.debian.org</li>
<li class="fragment">individual packages, useful for both developers and some users</li>
<li class="fragment"><code>mmdebstrap --variant=apt trixie</code></li>
-
- <li class="fragment">debvm, needs an upload, <code>!MR/45</code> has been merged
+ <li class="fragment">debvm, the fix for <code>!MR/45</code> finally uploaded today
</li>
@@ -717,61 +716,6 @@ Warpforge.
</section>
- <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h3><code>https://all.reproduce.debian.net</code>: 92.6%</h3>
- <img src="images/all_rdn.png">
- </section>
-
- <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h3><code>https://amd64.reproduce.debian.net</code>: 96.5%</h3>
- <img src="images/amd64_rdn.png">
- </section>
-
-
- <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h3><code>https://arm64.reproduce.debian.net</code>: 96.7%</h3>
- <img src="images/arm64_rdn.png">
- </section>
-
- <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h3><code>https://armel.reproduce.debian.net</code>: 92.0%</h3>
- <img src="images/armel_rdn.png">
- </section>
-
- <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h3><code>https://armhf.reproduce.debian.net</code>: 94.8%</h3>
- <img src="images/armhf_rdn.png">
- </section>
-
- <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h3><code>https://i386.reproduce.debian.net</code>: 97.1%</h3>
- <img src="images/i386_rdn.png">
- </section>
-
- <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h4><code>https://ppc64el.reproduce.debian.net</code>: 89.6%</h4>
- <img src="images/ppc64el_rdn.png">
- </section>
-
- <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h4><code>https://riscv64.reproduce.debian.net</code>: 94.5%</h4>
- <img src="images/riscv64_rdn.png">
- </section>
-
- <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h2>missing</h2>
- <h4><code>https://s390x.reproduce.debian.net</code></h4>
- <h4 class="fragment"><code>unstable</code></h4>
- <h4 class="fragment"><code>experimental</code></h4>
- <h4 class="fragment"><code>-security</code></h4>
- <h3 class="fragment"><code>forky</code></h4>
- </section>
-
- <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h2>reproduce.debian.net<br/> is <code>trixie</code> only atm</h2>
- <img src="images/trixie.png" class="fragment">
- </section>
-
<section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
<h2><code>https://reproduce.debian.net</code></h2>
<ul>
@@ -846,52 +790,74 @@ Warpforge.
</section>
<section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h3>The path to 100%</h3>
- <table>
- <tr><th>suite</th><th>reproducible</th><th style="color: #ff0000">unreproducible</th></tr>
-<tr style="font-size: 60%">
-<td>stretch</td>
-<td>23040(93.2%)</td>
-<td><span style="color: #ff0000">1514</span></td>
-</tr><tr style="font-size: 60%">
-<td>buster</td>
-<td>26653(93.9%)</td>
-<td><span style="color: #ff0000">1405</span></td>
-</tr><tr style="font-size: 60%">
-<td>bullseye</td>
-<td>29698(96.2%)</td>
-<td><span style="color: #ff0000">761</span></td>
-</tr><tr style="font-size: 60%">
-<td>bookworm</td>
-<td>33240(96.9%)</td>
-<td><span style="color: #ff0000">670</span></td>
-</tr><tr>
-<td>trixie</td>
-<td>35000</td>
-<td><span style="color: #ff0000">256</span></td>
-</tr><tr>
-<td>forky</td>
-<td>40000</td>
-<td><span style="color: #ff0000">128 (but no regressions or new pkgs)</span></td>
-</tr><tr>
-</tr><tr>
-<td>duke</td>
-<td>45000</td>
-<td><span style="color: #ff0000">42 policy violations left</span></td>
-</tr><tr>
-<td>duke+1</td>
-<td>50000</td>
-<td><span style="color: #00ff00">0 (?!?!!! that's probably 2031)</span></td>
-</tr><tr>
+ <h2>Debian's release team policy</h2>
+ <ul>
+ <li>2017: packages <em>should</em> build reproducibly.</li>
+ <li>2026 reproducible packages <em>must not</em> regress.</li>
+ <li>2026 NEW packages <em>must</em> build reproducibly.</li>
+ <li>2026 packages <em>must</em> build reproducibly.</li>
+ <li>In practice the release team will enforce this before it becomes official Debian policy. ☺️ </li>
+ </ul>
+ </section>
-</tr>
-</table>
- </section>
+ <section data-background="images/rb-logo.svg" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3>and then at the MiniDebConf Hamburg 2025</h3>
+ <ul>
+ <li>Paul (elbrus) and me talked about <code>forky</code>...
+ <img src="images/forky-toy-story-4.rhorizontal.w700.jpg" class="fragment">
+ </ul>
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/minidebconfhh2026-logo.svg" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3>...so for forky...!</h3>
+ <ul>
+ <li>britney now finally <i>has been</i> configured to not let (most) unreproducible packages migrate to testing!
+ <h2 class="fragment">🥳 🤗 🫠 🥳 </h2>
+ </ul>
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/minidebconfhh2026-logo.svg" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3>Testing migration is now blocked for</h3>
+ <ul>
+ <li>unreproducible NEW packages
+ <li>regressions: unreproducible packages which have been reproducible before
+ </ul>
+ </section>
+ <section data-background="images/minidebconfhh2026-logo.svg" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3>Testing migration is now blocked for</h3>
+ <ul>
+ <li>NEW unreproducible packages and regressions
+ <li class='fragment'>can be unblocked on request
+ <li class='fragment'>allowlisting possible, eg udebs atm
+ <li class='fragment'>results on certain architectures can be ignored too
+ </ul>
+ </section>
+ <section data-background="images/minidebconfhh2026-logo.svg" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3>the release team's stance is:</h3>
+ <ul>
+ <li>all packages must be reproducible
+ <li class='fragment'>but for now, only NEW unreproducible packages and regressions are blocked
+ <li class='fragment'>unreproducible packages are not yet considered RC buggy and won't be autoremoved <span class='fragment'>yet</span>
+ </ul>
+ </section>
<section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h3>The path to 100% (using old CI numbers...)</h3>
+ <h2>Debian's release team policy</h2>
+ <ul>
+ <li>2017: packages <em>should</em> build reproducibly.</li>
+ <li>2026 reproducible packages <em>must not</em> regress.</li>
+ <li>2026 NEW packages <em>must</em> build reproducibly.</li>
+ <li>2026 packages <em>must</em> build reproducibly.</li>
+ <li>In practice the release team will enforce this before it becomes official Debian policy. ☺️ </li>
+ </ul>
+ </section>
+
+
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3>The <i>old</i> path to 100% (using old CI numbers...)</h3>
<table>
<tr><th>suite</th><th>reproducible</th><th style="color: #ff0000">unreproducible</th></tr>
<tr style="font-size: 60%">
@@ -933,52 +899,152 @@ Warpforge.
</table>
</section>
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3>The <i>old</i> path to 100% (using old CI numbers...)</h3>
+ <h1 class='fragment'>is boring and has been obsoleted</h1>
- <section data-background="images/rb-logo.svg" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h3>and then at the MiniDebConf Hamburg 2025</h3>
- <ul>
- <li>Paul (elbrus) and me talked about <code>forky</code>...
- <img src="images/forky-toy-story-4.rhorizontal.w700.jpg" class="fragment">
- </ul>
</section>
- <section data-background="images/minidebconfhh2026-logo.svg" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h3>...so for forky...!</h3>
- <ul>
- <li>britney now finally <i>has been</i> configured to not let unreproducible packages migrate to testing!
- <h2 class="fragment">🥳 🤗 🫠 🥳 </h2>
- <li class="fragment">with allowlists for <b>some</b> unreproducible packages...eg all udebs atm</li>
- </ul>
- </section>
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net</code></h3>
+ <ul>
+ <li>has everything since trixie, IOW, we have: experimental, unstable, forky, trixie, trixie-security, trixie-updates, trixie-proposed-updates, trixie-backports
+ <li class='fragment'>has all archs except s390x and loong64, we do have armel for trixie.
+ <li class='fragment'>once trixie becomes LTS, we'll add trixie LTS.
+ </section>
- <section data-background="images/minidebconfhh2026-logo.svg" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h3>Testing migration is now blocked for</h3>
- <ul>
- <li>unreproducible NEW packages
- <li>regressions: unreproducible packages which have been reproducible before
- <li>unreproducible old packages
- </ul>
- </section>
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net</code></h3>
+ <h2><code>forky</code></h2>
+ </section>
- <section data-background="images/minidebconfhh2026-logo.svg" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h3>Testing migration is now blocked for</h3>
- <ul>
- <li><b>all</b> unreproducible packages
- <li class='fragment'>can be unblocked on request
- <li class='fragment'>allowlisting possible, eg udebs atm
- <li class='fragment'>results on certain architectures can be ignored too
- </ul>
- </section>
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/forky</code><br>arch:all: 98.3% good, 419 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/forky_all.png">
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/forky</code><br>amd64: 97.2% good, 512 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/forky_amd64.png">
+ </section>
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/forky</code><br>arm64: 97.7% good, 408 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/forky_arm64.png">
+ </section>
<section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
- <h3>switch tab</h3>
- <ul>
- <li>Show numbers on r.d.n....</li>
- <li class="fragment">Show reasons on r.d.n....</li>
- <li class="fragment">continue presentation</li>
- </ul>
- </section>
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/forky</code><br>armhf: 97.1% good, 507 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/forky_armhf.png">
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/forky</code><br>i386: 97.0% good, 523 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/forky_i386.png">
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/forky</code><br>ppc64el: 91.1% good, 531 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/forky_ppc64el.png">
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/forky</code><br>riscv64: 91.6% good, 338 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/forky_riscv64.png">
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net</code></h3>
+ <h2><code>unstable</code></h2>
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/unstable</code><br>arch:all: 98.0% good, 515 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/unstable_all.png">
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/unstable</code><br>amd64: 97.6% good, 469 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/unstable_amd64.png">
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net</code></h3>
+ <h2><code>trixie</code></h2>
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/trixie</code><br>arch:all: 91.7% good, 2001 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/trixie_all.png">
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/trixie</code><br>amd64: 95.6% good, 803 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/trixie_amd64.png">
+ </section>
+
+<section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net</code></h3>
+ <h2><code>trixie-security</code></h2>
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/trixie-security</code><br>arch:all: 82.9% good, 17 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/trixie-security_all.png">
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/trixie-security</code><br>amd64: 82.7% good, 15 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/trixie-security_amd64.png">
+ </section>
+
+
+<section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net</code></h3>
+ <h2><code>trixie-updates</code></h2>
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/trixie-updates</code><br>arch:all: 100% good, 1 good, 0 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/trixie-updates_all.png">
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/trixie-updates</code><br>amd64: 100% good, 2 good, 0 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/trixie-updates_amd64.png">
+ </section>
+
+
+<section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net</code></h3>
+ <h2><code>trixie-proposed-updates</code></h2>
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/trixie-proposed-updates</code><br>arch:all: 91.6% good, 9 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/trixie-proposed-updates_all.png">
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/trixie-proposed-updates</code><br>amd64: 85.0% good, 19 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/trixie-proposed-updates_amd64.png">
+ </section>
+
+
+<section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net</code></h3>
+ <h2><code>trixie-backports</code></h2>
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/trixie-backports</code><br>arch:all: 79.5% good, 53 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/trixie-backports_all.png">
+ </section>
+
+ <section data-background="images/debian_logo.png" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
+ <h3><code>https://reproduce.debian.net/trixie-backports</code><br>amd64: 83.5% good, 32 bad sources</h3>
+ <img src="images/trixie-backports_amd64.png">
+ </section>
<section data-background="images/rb-logo.svg" data-background-size="10%" data-background-position="93% 9%" data-transition="none">
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2026-05-09-Reproducing-Debian-in-the-real-world/todo
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-replace arch graphs
-update missing page
-trixie only also wrong
-include suite graphs
-update numbers at the path to 100%
include fail reason pages pages
rdn results block testing migration
forky: 422+517 src pakete in all+amd64, unklar wieviele unique src
minus 140 r pakete
-extra pages for s390x, loong64, risc64, ppc64el
-todo: https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds/rebuilderd-instances
old todo
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