[Git][reproducible-builds/reproducible-website][master] hamburg2023: Add notes about the website (audiences) session

Evangelos Ribeiro Tzaras (@devrtz) gitlab at salsa.debian.org
Thu Nov 2 13:24:37 UTC 2023



Evangelos Ribeiro Tzaras pushed to branch master at Reproducible Builds / reproducible-website


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07d3daf5 by Evangelos Ribeiro Tzaras at 2023-11-02T14:23:24+01:00
hamburg2023: Add notes about the website (audiences) session

The session took place on 2023-11-01 in the afternoon.

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+# website meeting
+
+reproducible-builds.org
+
+TL;DR:
+    - the homepage is fine for developers
+    - but maybe not for other types of users/visitors (powerusers, end users, project managers, ...)
+    - doing user testing sounds valuable
+
+## Landing page
+
+- the easier/more accesible the concept of reproducible builds is explained, the better.
+
+- It was discussed whether the buttons "Home" "News" "Documentation" are nice enough:
+    one view expressed that it's fine (as you can directly get to the documentation)
+
+- Motto: could be reworded as it should probably include the words "security" ?
+
+- Some visuals to explain the concept
+  maybe some diagram showing how sources 
+  (represented e.g. as a file icon with "src/*" or "*.c" label)
+  are build twice 
+  (simply show two computers producing *some* binary output)
+  perhaps even some video?
+
+## Categories of visitors
+
+- developer encountering rb for the first time (e.g. because someone sent a patch)
+- powerusers that hear about rb and want to learn more
+- developers of upstream software looking for docs (so they can avoid common pitfalls); i.e. people who are already convinced of the value of rb
+- vendors interested (and potentially fund) in rb
+- project managers selling the idea of rb to directors/employees
+- end users
+- scientists
+
+### Do user testing (per category)
+User testing would be preferable over guessing what types of users
+might want.
+
+### Different landing page for different users/visitors?
+
+### For technical users
+the site is probably mostly fine (there are some 404 links in the docs).
+most often devs want to look up documentation (and a short path is preferrable)
+
+### Make the homepage more friendly to non-technical users
+starting with a very (easy) introduction.
+
+
+## Google search terms from actual visitors
+most people are searching "reproducible builds" or SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH
+=> does not tell us very much
+
+- reproducible builds
+- rust reproducible
+- SOURCE DATE EPOCH 
+- deterministic builds
+
+## "Contact us" section?
+There **is** actually links in the fineprint at the bottom for the ML and
+"Full contact info" (which links to rb.org/who/).
+IRC/Matrix channels? Fediverse handles?
+
+- Where to put it?
+  Maybe under "Who is involved?" section of the page?
+- Add "Contact us" to the sidebar?
+
+## New "Resources" section
+containing Tools, Talks, ...
+
+
+## Continuous tests should probably be renamed (?)
+
+## Feedback from "users" on the Fedora telegram channel
+
+Q: Hi folks, a quick ask from the reproducible builds community: if you visit https://reproducible-builds.org/, without knowing what reproducible builds are, is the website useful and clear?
+
+Asking in this chat for someone that cant pick together on their own what a reproducible build is is strange xD
+
+To me the explanation seems thorough and clear. I believe it also depends on the knowledge level of the user, if he's a dev or not and so on
+
+If the website is targeted to devs then it's okay



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