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Holger Levsen pushed to branch master at <a href="https://salsa.debian.org/reproducible-builds/reproducible-website">Reproducible Builds / reproducible-website</a>
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<span> by Holger Levsen </span> <i> at 2023-06-03T15:17:19+02:00 </i>
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Signed-off-by: Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>
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<td class="line_content old" style="padding: inherit;" bgcolor="#fbe9eb"><pre style='display: block; font-size: 0.875rem; color: #333238; position: relative; font-family: var(--default-mono-font, "Menlo"),"DejaVu Sans Mono","Liberation Mono","Consolas","Ubuntu Mono","Courier New","andale mono","lucida console",monospace; word-break: break-all; word-wrap: break-word; background-color: inherit; border-radius: 2px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: inherit solid #dcdcde;'>-<span id="LC58" class="line" lang="markdown"><span class="p">*</span> David A. Wheeler <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">started a thread</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">https://lists.reproducible-builds.org/pipermail/rb-general/2023-May/002968.html</span><span class="p">)</span> noting that the <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">OSSGadget project's oss-reproducible tool</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">https://github.com/microsoft/OSSGadget/tree/main/src/oss-reproducible/README.md</span><span class="p">)</span> was measuring something related to but not the same as reproducible builds. <span class="idiff left right deletion" style="background-color: #fac5cd;">T</span>hey had adopted the term “semantically reproducible build” term for what it measured, which they defined as being "if its build results can be either recreated exactly (a bit for bit reproducible build), or if the differences between the release package and a rebuilt package are not expected to produce functional differences in normal cases." This <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">generated a significant number of replies</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">https://lists.reproducible-builds.org/pipermail/rb-general/2023-May/thread.html#2968</span><span class="p">)</span>. Several were concerned that people might confuse what they were measuring with reproducible builds. After discussion, the OSSGadget developers decided to <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">switch to the term "semantically equivalent"</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">https://github.com/microsoft/OSSGadget/issues/426</span><span class="p">)</span> for what they measured, to reduce the risk of confusion.</span>
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<td class="line_content new" style="padding: inherit;" bgcolor="#ecfdf0"><pre style='display: block; font-size: 0.875rem; color: #333238; position: relative; font-family: var(--default-mono-font, "Menlo"),"DejaVu Sans Mono","Liberation Mono","Consolas","Ubuntu Mono","Courier New","andale mono","lucida console",monospace; word-break: break-all; word-wrap: break-word; background-color: inherit; border-radius: 2px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: inherit solid #dcdcde;'>+<span id="LC58" class="line" lang="markdown"><span class="p">*</span> David A. Wheeler <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">started a thread</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">https://lists.reproducible-builds.org/pipermail/rb-general/2023-May/002968.html</span><span class="p">)</span> noting that the <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">OSSGadget project's oss-reproducible tool</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">https://github.com/microsoft/OSSGadget/tree/main/src/oss-reproducible/README.md</span><span class="p">)</span> was measuring something related to but not the same as reproducible builds. <span class="idiff left right addition" style="background-color: #c7f0d2;">Initially t</span>hey had adopted the term “semantically reproducible build” term for what it measured, which they defined as being "if its build results can be either recreated exactly (a bit for bit reproducible build), or if the differences between the release package and a rebuilt package are not expected to produce functional differences in normal cases." This <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">generated a significant number of replies</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">https://lists.reproducible-builds.org/pipermail/rb-general/2023-May/thread.html#2968</span><span class="p">)</span>. Several were concerned that people might confuse what they were measuring with reproducible builds. After discussion, the OSSGadget developers decided to <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">switch to the term "semantically equivalent"</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">https://github.com/microsoft/OSSGadget/issues/426</span><span class="p">)</span> for what they measured, to reduce the risk of confusion.</span>
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<td class="line_content" style="padding: inherit;"><pre style='display: block; font-size: 0.875rem; color: #333238; position: relative; font-family: var(--default-mono-font, "Menlo"),"DejaVu Sans Mono","Liberation Mono","Consolas","Ubuntu Mono","Courier New","andale mono","lucida console",monospace; word-break: break-all; word-wrap: break-word; background-color: inherit; border-radius: 2px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: inherit solid #dcdcde;'> <span id="LC60" class="line" lang="markdown"><span class="p">*</span> Vagrant Cascadian (<span class="ge" style="font-style: italic;">*vagrantc*</span>) posted an update about <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">GCC, binutils, and Debian's build-essential set</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">https://lists.reproducible-builds.org/pipermail/rb-general/2023-May/002961.html</span><span class="p">)</span> with "some progress, some hope, and I daresay, some fears…".</span>
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