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Chris Lamb pushed to branch master at <a href="https://salsa.debian.org/reproducible-builds/reproducible-website" style="color: #1068bf;">Reproducible Builds / reproducible-website</a>

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<strong style="font-weight: bold;"><a href="https://salsa.debian.org/reproducible-builds/reproducible-website/-/commit/d8d9ddbca7ec2b8c5c76f8960f55c3bde7e4491f" style="color: #1068bf;">d8d9ddbc</a></strong>

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<span> by Chris Lamb </span> <i> at 2022-12-02T08:42:02+00:00 </i>

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<td class="line_content old" style="padding: inherit;" bgcolor="#fbe9eb"><pre style='display: block; font-size: 0.8125rem; color: #303030; position: relative; font-family: "Menlo", "DejaVu Sans Mono", "Liberation Mono", "Consolas", "Ubuntu Mono", "Courier New", "andale mono", "lucida console", monospace; word-break: break-all; word-wrap: break-word; background-color: inherit; border-radius: 2px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: inherit solid #dbdbdb;'>-<span id="LC11" class="line" lang="markdown">This is the <span class="ge" style="font-style: italic;">*six*</span> instalment in a series featuring the projects, companies and individuals who support the Reproducible Builds project. We started this series by <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">featuring the Civil Infrastructure Platform</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">{{</span> <span class="nn" style="color: #555;">"/news/2020/10/21/supporter-spotlight-cip-project/"</span> | relative_url }}) project and followed this up with a <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">post about the Ford Foundation</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">{{</span> <span class="nn" style="color: #555;">"/news/2021/04/06/supporter-spotlight-ford-foundation/"</span> | relative_url }}) as well as a recent ones about <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">ARDC</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">{{</span> <span class="nn" style="color: #555;">"/news/2022/04/14/supporter-spotlight-ardc/"</span> | relative_url }}), the <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">Google Open Source Security Team (GOSST)</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">{{</span> <span class="nn" style="color: #555;">"/news/2022/04/26/supporter-spotlight-google-open-source-security-team/"</span> | relative_url }}), <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">Jan Nieuwenhuizen on Bootstrappable Builds, GNU Mes and GNU Guix</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">{{</span> <span class="nn" style="color: #555;">"/news/2022/05/18/jan-nieuwenhuizen-on-bootrappable-builds-gnu-mes-and-gnu-guix/"</span> | relative_url }}) and <span class="idiff left right deletion" style="background-color: #fac5cd;">.</span><span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">Hans-Christoph Steiner of the F-Droid project</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">{{</span> <span class="nn" style="color: #555;">"/news/2022/06/24/supporter-spotlight-hans-christoph-steiner-f-droid-project/"</span> | relative_url }})</span>

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<td class="line_content new" style="padding: inherit;" bgcolor="#ecfdf0"><pre style='display: block; font-size: 0.8125rem; color: #303030; position: relative; font-family: "Menlo", "DejaVu Sans Mono", "Liberation Mono", "Consolas", "Ubuntu Mono", "Courier New", "andale mono", "lucida console", monospace; word-break: break-all; word-wrap: break-word; background-color: inherit; border-radius: 2px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: inherit solid #dbdbdb;'>+<span id="LC27" class="line" lang="markdown">In my copious free time I also teach at <span class="p"><span class="idiff left addition" style="background-color: #c7f0d2;">[</span></span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">George Mason University</span><span class="p"><span class="idiff addition" style="background-color: #c7f0d2;">](</span></span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;"><span class="idiff addition" style="background-color: #c7f0d2;">https://www.gmu.edu/</span></span><span class="p"><span class="idiff addition" style="background-color: #c7f0d2;">)</span></span> <span class="p">(</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">GMU</span><span class="p">)</span><span class="idiff right addition" style="background-color: #c7f0d2;">;</span> in particular,</span>

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