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Vagrant Cascadian pushed to branch master at <a href="https://salsa.debian.org/reproducible-builds/reproducible-website" style="color: #1068bf;">Reproducible Builds / reproducible-website</a>
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<span> by Vagrant Cascadian </span> <i> at 2022-10-05T13:16:58-07:00 </i>
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<td class="line_content" style="padding: inherit;"><pre style='display: block; font-size: 0.8125rem; color: #303030; position: relative; font-family: "Menlo", "DejaVu Sans Mono", "Liberation Mono", "Consolas", "Ubuntu Mono", "Courier New", "andale mono", "lucida console", monospace; word-break: break-all; word-wrap: break-word; background-color: inherit; border-radius: 2px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border: inherit solid #dbdbdb;'> <span id="LC33" class="line" lang="markdown">David Wheeler also pointed out that there are some potential upcoming changes to the <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">OpenSSF Best Practices</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/en</span><span class="p">)</span> badge for open source software in relation to reproducibility. Whilst the badge programme has <span class="p">[</span><span class="nv" style="color: #008080;">three certification levels</span><span class="p">](</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/en/criteria</span><span class="p">)</span> <span class="p">(</span><span class="sx" style="color: #d14;">"passing",</span> <span class="nn" style="color: #555;">"silver"</span> and "gold"), the "gold" level includes the criterion that "The project MUST have a reproducible build".</span>
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