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<span>by Holger Levsen</span>
<i>at 2019-08-03T20:01:06Z</i>
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<pre class="commit-message" style="white-space: pre-wrap; margin: 0;">2019-08-04-Linuxdev-BR: yet more polishing
Signed-off-by: Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>
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<pre style="margin: 0;"> <span id="LC180" class="line" lang="plaintext">#+ATTR_BEAMER: :overlay <+-></span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">-<span id="LC181" class="line" lang="plaintext">- <span class="idiff left right">Then in 2013 some people in Debian started</span> to investigate this.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC181" class="line" lang="plaintext">- <span class="idiff left right">In 2013 some people in Debian began</span> to investigate this.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;"> <span id="LC182" class="line" lang="plaintext">- And kicked it off in 2014 by introducing systematic testing, classifications and weekly blogs.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">-<span id="LC220" class="line" lang="plaintext">- The next 33% is to do it in practice, to change the distros tools and workflows. Not always easy.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">-<span id="LC221" class="line" lang="plaintext">- And the last 33% are about distributing trust and/or "Enable everyone to independently..." for real. And that again is different for each distro.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC221" class="line" lang="plaintext">- The last 33% are again different for each distro and divided into these questions:</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC223" class="line" lang="plaintext"> - how to "Enable everyone to independently..." in practice. (eg for Debian there are two designs with code, but...)</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;"> <span id="LC252" class="line" lang="plaintext">- We made 93% of the first 33%.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;"> <span id="LC253" class="line" lang="plaintext">- Currently. There's new software every hour.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">-<span id="LC252" class="line" lang="plaintext">- <span class="idiff left right">And for some distros, half or a third of the 2nd 33%</span>.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC254" class="line" lang="plaintext">- <span class="idiff left right">The 2nd 33% are more blurry, some small projects made it, no big one yet</span>.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;"> <span id="LC256" class="line" lang="plaintext">- *There is a lot to do. Please. Help.*</span>
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