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Bernhard M. Wiedemann pushed to branch master
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<strong><a href="https://salsa.debian.org/reproducible-builds/reproducible-website/commit/e815b1d5c12e94fd86a8929fedc4a480b1b03ec5">e815b1d5</a></strong>
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<span>by Bernhard M. Wiedemann</span>
<i>at 2019-07-12T09:40:57Z</i>
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<pre class="commit-message" style="white-space: pre-wrap; margin: 0;">Change 7 words towards standard terms
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<pre style="margin: 0;">-<span id="LC17" class="line" lang="markdown"><span class="p"> +</span> In FreeBSD packages are rebuilt weekly and <span class="idiff left right">non-</span>reproducible packages get reuploaded every time.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">+<span id="LC17" class="line" lang="markdown"><span class="p"> +</span> In FreeBSD packages are rebuilt weekly and <span class="idiff left right">un</span>reproducible packages get reuploaded every time.</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;"> <span id="LC3353" class="line" lang="markdown"> Makefile</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;"> <span id="LC3355" class="line" lang="markdown"><span class="p">-</span> use difflog to see if something interesting happens related to</span>
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<pre style="margin: 0;">-<span id="LC3356" class="line" lang="markdown"> <span class="idiff left right">i</span>ndeterministic files</span>
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